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Post by Alatariel on Jun 25, 2004 9:29:21 GMT -5
He does die in the Valinor. And it's actually not the Valinor. That's where the Valar live. It's another name...umm....begins with an e. Can't remember. He is still mortal. He'll live a little longer but he'll be in peace. But he does eventually die there.
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Post by Randir on Jun 25, 2004 22:45:34 GMT -5
No he does not.The elves don't die there.Thats basically where they go to live happy lives.Frodo is protected there.He was just so tierd.His task was done.Oy ve.I don't want to sound mean or anything but.Frodo is alive.He's just in the hint hint undyinglands.
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Post by Alatariel on Jun 26, 2004 9:57:40 GMT -5
omg! Let me try to explain this more! A Tolkien expert told me this! I asked them! Frodo is mortal. He stays mortal. But for the rest of his life he will be happy and safe. Eventually he will die. It's sort of his choice of when to die though. When he's had enough of the Undying Lands, he'll just die. I didn't explain that good, did I?
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Post by Silmarwen Inglorion on Jun 26, 2004 10:30:12 GMT -5
Valinor is called the Undying Lands because the elves live there, not because people cannot die there. Frodo is a hobbit. Hobbits are mortal. Mortals die. Frodo died eventually.
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Post by Randir on Jun 26, 2004 23:13:05 GMT -5
LOL.Thank you.I get confused on my words alot.
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Post by Alatariel on Jun 27, 2004 10:25:46 GMT -5
Thank you Silmarwen.
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Post by Silmarwen Inglorion on Jun 27, 2004 11:15:27 GMT -5
Very welcome. *bobs head*
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Post by Randir on Jun 30, 2004 0:12:53 GMT -5
I'm certainly glad someone cleared that up for both of us.LOL.I am so sorry if I confused you girl.I was trying to get my lines right.
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lady_arwen91
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Post by lady_arwen91 on Jun 30, 2004 8:35:35 GMT -5
no he doesnt die. in ROTK
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Post by Randir on Jul 1, 2004 0:38:46 GMT -5
Oh no not again!!!!LMAO.Read above we have allready had this taken care of.
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Post by † Rumil † on Jul 1, 2004 13:43:22 GMT -5
Ok...someone just said that Bilbo went over because he was old.. No. Bilbo and Frodo both were allowed to go because they were Ringbearers. Sam eventually built a boat, and sailed there after Rosie died, because he had held the ring for awhile.
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Post by Randir on Jul 3, 2004 22:27:59 GMT -5
......*Scratches head* Now I'm confused.
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Post by noja2004 on Jul 9, 2004 0:21:13 GMT -5
ok first of all frodo didnt die he went to the undying lands, now sone will say that he went to stay there for the rest of his life but the rest of his life could mean anything in Valinor (the undying lands) no one is really sure if once he gets there he will live forever, or if he will simpily grow and die, or if that is where hobbits go when they die no one knows because hobbits arent mentioned in any of the ancient stories. but they werent the only fellowship members to go, of course gandalf went but a little while after sam went, o and by the way sam didnt build a boat the movie was wrong when it said that the ship frodo went on was the last ship to leave middle earth, legolas and gimli went too. O and if you want a description of what frodo saw / felt when he went watch the part of the movie where gandalf talks to pippin about death during the siege on gondor. but the other guy was right the were allowed to go because they were ringbearers, and gimli was allowed to go because of his love for galadreil and friendship with legolas.
i say allowed because the only people allowed to go to valinor and that are known to go to valinor when they die are the elves
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Post by Alatariel on Jul 9, 2004 9:14:06 GMT -5
I still stick with what I said because a Tolkien expert told me.
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Post by noja2004 on Jul 9, 2004 18:21:13 GMT -5
o ok i see what you said but what im saying is that no body knows if hobbits will become "weary" in the undying lands because no books tell where hobbits go when they die or if they will get weary in the undying lands. the Sil does say that men would weary quickly there but that is just because they have longings for battle and war hobbits have longings for some of the same things that the undying lands were made for peace being the most evident. and as for the tolkien expert all of us including this expert can only go off of what the books told us or in some cases didnt tell us in this case the lack of knowledge concerning hobbits.
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