~Rev
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"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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Post by ~Rev on Jul 6, 2004 18:37:13 GMT -5
For me, it is the attention to detail and the way he lets it develop into our own world. Tolkien described everything, not just the characters, he described the landscape, the culture, the working languages, every little detail is accurate and consistant. Then he lets the stoies pave the way for our modern day world. I suppose that's it in a nutshell for me!
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Post by luthien on Aug 4, 2004 6:41:39 GMT -5
I would have to say the music the story the enter scene.Because okay picture it like this.If you play the lord of the rings without the sound track the movie would be awfull.And the emotion would be gone out of the entire movie because the music just helps the movie with the emotion that it's supposed to have weather it should be happy,sad romantic or suspensefull.The music just adds the movie.It makes it really emotionall and believable. i think he/she is right and without the music its not a film then because it mis the feeling of the hole film of it and i think that the importend thing is the music (for me) because that gives you a feeling that you cant describe.
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Post by TrueElvenWarrior on Aug 7, 2004 11:43:31 GMT -5
if u ask me i think thatwell the movies premired in a world where evil actually was! i mean like we had just had the New york thing and the petagon. I mean we had to be ready for battle at a momets notice..... we had to be our own heroes in a world of terror. We had heroes among us. like dom said in an interview. It was the little ppl who ended up saving the day, ppl that u least expected to be the heroes
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Post by Nienor on Aug 8, 2004 11:15:36 GMT -5
Hmm. Good point, TrueElvenWarrior.
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Post by Princess Edhela Greenleaf on Aug 8, 2004 11:25:02 GMT -5
i think for the movies it was just how you could feel lost in the movie and feel like your in it I dunno why it makes me feel like that but it does
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Post by Laeretheas on Aug 13, 2004 8:15:00 GMT -5
i think that the LotR books were believable because Tolkien chose to write about characters with whom we can relate, instead of mystical people who have nothing to do with us. the issues that the characters in the book struggle with that are like our own: pain, hunger, loss, depression, and death. although the settings and people groups in LotR are fictional, of course, there is a believable quality to the book in its characters.
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Post by Nienor on Aug 13, 2004 10:13:55 GMT -5
Right. I am going to TRY to collect my thoughts later and come back on to post some more...right now I'm too tired and befuddled.
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Post by LOTRfreak13 on Aug 13, 2004 19:00:54 GMT -5
i think he/she is right and without the music its not a film then because it mis the feeling of the hole film of it and i think that the importend thing is the music (for me) because that gives you a feeling that you cant describe. yeah i think so too. the music is so bea-uitful and without it it might has been good but not as great
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Elbereth
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Post by Elbereth on Sept 3, 2004 21:53:24 GMT -5
I think what made the Lord Of The Rings so believable, is that it was like real life in a way. Bad things happened to people, and it wasn't like one of those corny princess movies where nothing bad ever happens to anyone. Bad things happened... Oh yeah...
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Eriol
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Post by Eriol on Sept 4, 2004 8:32:16 GMT -5
Hey that's a good point. ;D
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Post by Chrysophylax on Sept 6, 2004 15:58:33 GMT -5
I think that Lord of the Rings is so believable because of the way that you can relate to the characters. I do not believe that anyone could read the books or watch the films and not find one character that they do not see parts of themselves in.
There is also the fact that Tolkien was so descriptive in his works. There is so much detail in them, that really isn't important, but yet, it just makes his worlds seem so much more real. (Such as whether the moon is waxing or waning, etc.)
Then there is the history element of it. There is a history to Middle-earth and so it's not just a 2D world which as been plonked somewhere.
Those are my thoughts, anyway.
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Post by Nienor on Sept 7, 2004 5:55:28 GMT -5
Exactly. The fact that there is a history explaining how all these things came about, several languages, and many cultures, it's amazing. And then the fact that there are so many aspects present that you actually NEED to make a good story...so many things that relate to our lives and our world. For instance, there is no way the hobbits could have gone back to the Shire and found it untouched... it's an impossibility. Someone would have taken advantage of it...and someone did.
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Post by WhiteElvenLily on Sept 7, 2004 9:37:53 GMT -5
What I find so believable is...well, all of it, I guess ;D The characters are so amazing, it's like seeing yourself and your family and friends on screen! And it makes you feel like, even though you may think you're "unimportant," it's the "unimportant" ones who "shape the fortunes of us all," and you become confident in the thought that you can do something to help the cause of the good of others, like the hobbits. Or you feel like you can resist doing things you will regret, like Galadriel or Faramir. Or, you can be forgiven for what you've done, like Boromir. Or, (this is my favorite) you can overcome your shyness and fear, like Sam, and save Mr. Frodo, or defeat Shelob, or go up and face Rosie, and let her know you like her(ahem*Cough* No comment, hehehe). Moving on...Then there's the detail, all I can say is WOW , and the history, it's not just some little story that ends, it goes on, and the characters go on, and people die, and experience sorrow and joy, and cry their hearts out, and--and-- I could go on forever. Thank you Tolkien!! We will never forget the precious world you've given us!!(yes, pun intended ;D )
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Post by Nienor on Sept 12, 2004 12:12:54 GMT -5
Goodness gracious gosh, WhiteElvenLily, you SAID it!
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Eriol
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Post by Eriol on Sept 14, 2004 12:25:35 GMT -5
I think that Lord of the Rings is so believable because of the way that you can relate to the characters. I do not believe that anyone could read the books or watch the films and not find one character that they do not see parts of themselves in. I entirely agree! There is also the fact that Tolkien was so descriptive in his works. There is so much detail in them, that really isn't important, but yet, it just makes his worlds seem so much more real. (Such as whether the moon is waxing or waning, etc.) I could not disagree with you any more. A desciptive piece has details of little real importance, but overall add to the general portrayal in their own manner. Tolkien almost never did this. How long was Aragorn's sword? Was there a pattern on Legolas' Bow? How big was Rivendell? How many trees? What variaton of trees? What did Aule look like? What was it like when Thorin, Fili and Kili fell? You dont find out (I hope you dont for the given points. Heh-heh. But I hope that you see what I mean) This is why his work is so powerful! Because your mind fills the gap you can make every relation to the piece! You make it what you want, and arent forced at all. Everything is how it should be, because it is individual to each mind.
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