Rohan Lady
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Post by Rohan Lady on Jan 12, 2005 20:55:51 GMT -5
I was just wondering - what does everyone think of the various changes that were made in PJ's adapation of TTT? I think, out of the three movies, TTT was the one that was the most drastically changed. I think that it was a smart move in matching up chronologically the events that overlap at the end of TTT and ROTK (like Shelob's Lair.) But what about the things like Helm's Deep (major change, in my opinion) and the warg attack, and the whole 'exodus' of the Rohirrim to Helm's Deep? I personally was upset at the way PJ chose to potray Theoden as unwilling to fight any more than was necessary, wheras in the book, after being restored by Gandalf, he immediately regains his old vigour and strength and rides off to battle.
Just curious as to everyone's opinions! ;D
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beren
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Post by beren on Jan 13, 2005 1:38:57 GMT -5
Yeah mi too I feel the same. In the book it was Theoden King who asked Aragorn to ride out with him whereas in the movie it's the opposite situation.
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Post by Lady Orohisiel Rainyaviel on Jan 13, 2005 6:12:57 GMT -5
Yeah I don't like really like the changes in TT. I don't like them making Helm's Deep the big climax of the film, where in the book it wasn't that big a thing. I guess I liked Eowyn going to Helm's Deep because she's my favourite character in LotR and I liked seeing more of her, and the Warg attack I suppose wasn't really that bad, in fact, now I actually think it was a nice addition, though obviously I would have prefered it as it was in the book. But the change that gets me the most in TT is Faramir. I really really hate that, I liked him alot in the book, thinking him strong and noble with will power, but in the film the way he 'betrays' Frodo makes him look nasty! But, as people have pointed out, to a audience who hadn't read the book it would make them think that by Faramir saying things like he would not pick it up if he found it by the road (something like that *is ashamed for not knowing*) that the Ring isn't really that powerful. So I can understand why they did it, but I would have preffered them not to have changed it .
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Rohan Lady
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Post by Rohan Lady on Jan 13, 2005 17:13:45 GMT -5
That's the other change I couldn't remember at the moment. Faramir!! Ugh, that bothered me so much! They completely changed his character. And yeah, Eowyn is my favourite character as well, so I really didn't mind her at Helm's Deep.
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Kaowyn
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Post by Kaowyn on Jan 15, 2005 19:54:13 GMT -5
I too hated the changes made to Faramir in the movie. I understand why they did it, but it still made me a quite mad. In the book, Faramir was so pure and true and noble, and movie Faramir was so easily corrupted, IMO. I liked that there was more Eowyn, as she is also my favorite character, in TTT.
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Post by Alessae on Jan 19, 2005 14:17:13 GMT -5
Farmir and Eowyn make me tingle.
I wish they didn't not move that part, for anything.
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Post by Lady Undomiel on Mar 20, 2005 20:02:08 GMT -5
I'm fed up with this but I've to say it again watch the TTT EE spacial materials - you know I watched the movie before reading the book but when I learned about all of the changes I was upset and I was wondering why... UNTIL I saw TTT EE disk 1 sprcial materials: From Book To Script - you should watch it...
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Rohan Lady
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Post by Rohan Lady on Mar 21, 2005 11:14:14 GMT -5
I have watched them. I know and understand exactly why they made the changes they did; I simply don't agree with some of them. And I think that's perfectly fine. Overall, they did a fantastic job, and they changed what they felt was necessary. But not everyone is going to agree with every single change that they made, and that's ok. Everyone has their own opinions. I still love the movies dearly, even though I may not like some of changes.
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Post by Laredith on Mar 21, 2005 15:54:40 GMT -5
I thought that some of the changes were o.k., but I did like Tolkien's versions better. I think that it was a horrible decision to kill Haldir! There was no point or need to do that
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Post by Arien Elensar on Mar 21, 2005 18:52:15 GMT -5
I prefer Tolkiens version because it has that original magic and myth thing to it.
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Rohan Lady
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Post by Rohan Lady on Mar 23, 2005 13:07:02 GMT -5
Well, yes; that and it's the original work. And no interpretation, no matter how well done, is as good as the real thing! About Haldir though: it was sad that he had to die, but then again...he wasn't even at Helm's Deep in the book...
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Post by Laredith on Mar 23, 2005 16:28:12 GMT -5
Yes, that is the point! He never had to go to Helm's Deep as it doesn't change the story. If he hadn't gone to Helm's Deep he wouldn't have died! Ah well, he just be alive in my mind ;D
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Post by Arien Elensar on Mar 23, 2005 19:01:10 GMT -5
Yup! He doesn't die in my head. ;D
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Post by Lady Estel Anarion on Mar 25, 2005 14:53:33 GMT -5
ah Haldir death Faramir - argh - he was nasty ah and in ex version victory of osgilath
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FaramirFancier
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Post by FaramirFancier on Apr 30, 2005 21:46:51 GMT -5
Yes, the Faramir issue is really one of the strong points with dislike for TTT. There's a whole different thread for it, too. Everyone like to argue that one!
The Haldir issue, too, is...controversial? In the books (forgive me if I'm wrong), we never really see what happens to Haldir. This person I know put it as Haldir being the "Doorman of Lorien": there to let people in and keep people out. In the book, he really doesn't do anything except fight Orcs/Goblins, keeping them out of Lorien; escort the Fellowship to Caras Galadhon, and...(ugh, lost my train of though!!!).
But Haldir at Helm's Deep? Possibly because they needed to have some ending for Haldir. If they didn't, wouldn't people just be "What happened to Haldir?" after FotR? I just don't think it was the best possible way to end Haldir's part in LotR.
But that's just my opinion.
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