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Post by Tinwen on May 12, 2005 7:37:07 GMT -5
just found some more about Goldberry - same book, p21: "...In the histories of Middle-earth there also appear others who may have been Maiar: Thuringwethil, the Vampire; Ungoliant, the Spider; Draughluin, the Werewolf; Goldberry, the River-daughter; and Iarwain Ben-adar (Tom Bombadil)." Goldberry is listed under the Ainur here... xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 13, 2005 1:01:39 GMT -5
Hmmm...then maybe she is a maia.
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Post by Tinwen on May 13, 2005 6:54:46 GMT -5
thats what i was thinking - maybe Tolkien didnt really WANT us to know...maybe he wanted that element of mystery left in there, personally i think she is Maia.. xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 16, 2005 21:31:04 GMT -5
same here.
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Post by Tinwen on May 17, 2005 5:15:19 GMT -5
Arien, i think we may just have figured out the truth about Goldberry...yayski!!! xTx
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Post by vikingmaiden on May 17, 2005 9:45:36 GMT -5
i don't think goldberry is an elf or maia or anything. she's a river daughter, she's connected with the river and water...so she's probably like a nymph or something like that. i don't think we're supposed to know who or what she is, sort of like tom bombadil.
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Post by LadyOfRohan on May 17, 2005 9:46:21 GMT -5
She's a River Daughter
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Post by Tinwen on May 17, 2005 11:11:41 GMT -5
but what IS she? we know that shes a River-daughter, but what ARE they!? thats why i looked it up and it suggests that shes a Maia oh well Arien, looks like we've not go to the bottom of it...*sighs* xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 18, 2005 1:22:19 GMT -5
It's alright. A dead end just brings us closer.
I still do think that she is a Maia because like Arien of the sun was a flame and Telepiron of the moon, she must be of the river. I think.
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Post by Tinwen on May 18, 2005 13:44:25 GMT -5
hmmm - very possibly...and as you said a dead end only brings us closer!! xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 18, 2005 22:29:12 GMT -5
Yes, could be but again, can't be sure.
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Post by Tinwen on May 19, 2005 6:42:02 GMT -5
guess its gonna be one of those things that people are gonna have to agree to disagree on then, huh?! xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 19, 2005 23:22:36 GMT -5
lol Yeah. I think it's more of ones opinion and what they think she is, since none can be certain.
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Post by Tinwen on May 20, 2005 7:53:06 GMT -5
yeah...oh well - i still think she is Maia.. xTx
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Post by Arien Elensar on May 21, 2005 22:23:48 GMT -5
Me too, but at times it doesn't seem like it. Like before, can't be sure.
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