Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 15, 2004 18:31:47 GMT -5
Ok I was wondering if anyone could answer a question about Arwen turning mortal in the ROTK? How does arwen turn mortal in the ROTK? and why was her life tid to the Ring? Thanks!
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Post by Alatariel on Jun 15, 2004 22:08:45 GMT -5
Even the wisest cannot tell...........
lol. Anyway, I know. But it's like past 11 and I am so not awake and I probably won't be making any sense like I am now. So someone who knows (And who is awake) tell her. lol
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Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 16, 2004 13:18:32 GMT -5
Ok well thanks for trying! lol!
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Post by Diamond on Jun 17, 2004 12:46:12 GMT -5
There is never a defining moment when Arwen becomes mortal. I believe it's more like, after Aragorn dies, she dies of a broken heart. Elves can die of that, but for Arwen, she does not go to the Halls of Mandos like other Elves do, her soul passes out of the world. When Men die, no one knows where their souls go; the same happens to Arwen.
Arwen's life was not tied to the Ring. Peter Jackson just put that in to make Arwen seem more important. Otherwise, Frodo would've just saved the WORLD...but with that element, he, more importantly, saves ARWEN. I don't know why PJ put that in, but it certainly didn't add to the story, seeing how it was barely followed up on.
<>Diamond<>
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Post by Evening Star on Jun 17, 2004 13:25:42 GMT -5
Ok I have one thing to say about the whole "Arwen's fate is tied to the ring" thing
THERE WAS NO POINT!
I never got why they did that it was kind of stupid really it didn't do anything to the story and if that's there way to give Arwen more of a part it didn't work Arwen is my favorite character and all but come on you don't have to overboard
P.S. I agree with Diamond on the whole mortal thing
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Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 17, 2004 13:54:37 GMT -5
Thanks a lot! That allmakes since. Thatnks for clearing it up Diamond.
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Post by Inwë Eärfalas on Jun 18, 2004 14:33:11 GMT -5
Just want to say that indeed Arwens life isn't tid to the ring, but actually (not literally) to the jewel she gave Aragorn.
Because she is great-...-grand-child of Lúthien she has to decide if she wants to become mortal or stay elve.
I agree that PJ put that in the film just to make it a bit more dramatic....
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Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 18, 2004 18:21:01 GMT -5
Well, thanks everyone for your help!
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Lorina
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Post by Lorina on Jun 27, 2004 15:57:09 GMT -5
OOOOOOoooooooo!!  I didn't know that! I leaned something without even asking a question! ;D ~^~*Namarie*~^~ ~Lorina~ |
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Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 27, 2004 17:56:11 GMT -5
lol! Well, I've always been wondering that so I thought I'd ask someone on this board and thought mayb they would know.
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Lorina
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Post by Lorina on Jun 27, 2004 21:15:00 GMT -5
*hehe* Yeah, that's a good idea! because with 601 members someone is most likely going to respond.
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Bloodycharity
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Post by Bloodycharity on Jun 28, 2004 21:25:11 GMT -5
Yeah thats what I thought. But thanks to everyone who answered my question!
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Post by ElberethGilthoniel on Dec 21, 2004 11:31:27 GMT -5
ok, I know the question has already been answered, but here's my opinion. Her life isn't tied to the Ring, it's tied to Frodo. In FotR she says ' What grace has given to me, let it pass to him. ' So, she gave her life's grace to him. So as Frodo becomes more & more corrupted, Arwen's life fades away. But you know, that's just me. Bye!!!
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Post by Chrysophylax on Dec 22, 2004 18:21:29 GMT -5
I think when it says that Arwen's life is tied to the Ring, it also illustrates for the none-bookies the way in which the Ring has the potential to affect so many in Middle-earth: whatever happens to the ring, Rivendell and Lorien will fall and I think that in having Arwen's fate "tied to the ring" it gave a greater illustration of this in the films. I bet this makes no sense  I'm tired! |
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Post by Linwë Culnámo on Dec 25, 2004 1:40:18 GMT -5
yeah.....i always wondered why that was too. thanks for the clearing up diamond.
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I didn't know that! I leaned something without even asking a question! ;D
I'm tired!
