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Nov 14, 2004 15:25:30 GMT -5
Post by vikingmaiden on Nov 14, 2004 15:25:30 GMT -5
well, i've just got to say that out of everything in the movies, i liked the wargs the least. i mean, they looked like huge crosses between a hyena and a bear! not like wolves at all! i mean, i know the movie people were trying to be creative, but the wargs were supposed to be like wolves...
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Nov 14, 2004 17:01:03 GMT -5
Post by MarenweGreanleaf on Nov 14, 2004 17:01:03 GMT -5
the wargs kinda freaked me out lol. well not really haha. your right! they do look like a cross between a hyena anda bear! lol i never noticed it! but i thought they looked like wolves.......you didnt?
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Nov 15, 2004 1:34:06 GMT -5
Post by Andromache on Nov 15, 2004 1:34:06 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300] I remember thinking they looked like Hyenas too... but after that "walking with prehistoric beasts" on Discovery a couple years ago... I thought they resembled those horse sized wolf-like creatures that are somehow related to cows (I guess truth is stranger than fiction: dsc.discovery.com/convergence/beasts/zoo/zoo.html ...check out the "andrewsarchus" not so much the photo as the info ) I mean there were wierder things in the movies and in real life even. Also the term "wolves" is not always used to litterally compare animals to the modern Wolf. Often it is a slang for any ravenous and relentless hunting animal... although usually SOME semblance to the modern wolf is usually implied. Example, the African hunting dogs are often called Painted Wolves, eventhough they do not look or genuinely act like them and infact they are more closely related to Jackals. Same with the Dhole or Indian wild hunting dogs who are also described as wolves, eventhough they too are more like Jackals in look and behavior. For that matter when using the term "wolves" in the abstract sense, Scientists also often compare certain Dinosaurs like Velociraptor and it's relatives to Wolves... At least they didn't make them into those. I mean could you immagine how screwed up funky and WRONG that could have been? Ever the optimist, I say thank goodness they didn't screw it up worse... the Wargs were cool. I breed and train horses and dogs... I think it would be cool to have a Warg. Although I would hope for a nicer looking one than the ones shown in the movie. [/glow]
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Nov 15, 2004 12:08:41 GMT -5
Post by vikingmaiden on Nov 15, 2004 12:08:41 GMT -5
^ lol , i can just picture an orc riding on the back of a dinosaur!
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Nov 16, 2004 13:26:36 GMT -5
Post by Gloredhel on Nov 16, 2004 13:26:36 GMT -5
The wargs really annoyed me in the movie. They were really big, and they didn't look right. I imagine them to be just a bit bigger than wolves, and look basically the same as wolves. (and, of course, the whole warg battle wsn't even supposed to BE there....... )
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Nov 17, 2004 5:02:41 GMT -5
Post by Nienor on Nov 17, 2004 5:02:41 GMT -5
(and, of course, the whole warg battle wsn't even supposed to BE there....... ) Haha, Gloredhel, good point! I didn't mind the wargs, personally, because there was so little about them in the books, I hadn't thought of their appearance much.
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Nov 17, 2004 16:34:24 GMT -5
Post by Kirsty on Nov 17, 2004 16:34:24 GMT -5
aww, I like the wargs! the only thing I thought was, they were the most CGI looking things in the movie
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Nov 18, 2004 14:59:40 GMT -5
Post by Andromache on Nov 18, 2004 14:59:40 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300] I want a warg... I'll put pretty pink, purple, blue, silver and gold bows and ribbons all over it and name it George. Then I'll give it a bath, and paint it's claws, and take it to a hairdresser so it can look like an over-bred show poodle with dyed hair and I'll attack it with perfume so that it doesn't stink anymore (because the way the looked in the movie you just know they had a bad smell) and then I'll ride it through town screaming "Free WILLY!" at the top of my lungs.
Okay I went a little crazy with that one (insert crazy "GIRL MOMENT" here)... but I still want a Warg of my very own. I don't care if it is UGLY, I'll find a way to make it prettier and less stinky! [/glow]
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Nov 19, 2004 17:10:40 GMT -5
Post by Toasterman101 on Nov 19, 2004 17:10:40 GMT -5
aww, I like the wargs! the only thing I thought was, they were the most CGI looking things in the movie I would agree the wargs were not done very well, the CG artists didnt focus on one animal to modle after. For Example their teeth and muzzle are wofl/canine atrributes, while their sholder blade and body build type thing made them look like saber tooth tigers. I think thats really waht made them look kinda cheesy.
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Nov 25, 2004 21:04:04 GMT -5
Post by Faramir Stewardson on Nov 25, 2004 21:04:04 GMT -5
Well I mean can you imagine a orc riding a regular wolf?
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Nov 26, 2004 2:37:35 GMT -5
Post by Andromache on Nov 26, 2004 2:37:35 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300] I can immagine that... they COULD have done it well if they did it that way. But there was FAR more room to mess it up if they had. Because dispite reputation, Wolves really aren't all that terribly menaccing or viscious... espeically if you take the time to study anything about them in depth or own pet dogs... which is just my opinion.
I mean they could have stylized them to be ferocious looking, but I think if they had modeled them after only wolves... there would have been a far larger chance of screwing it up and making it cheezy or overly unbelievable. After all most people know what a Wolf is, and the general immage of a wolf involves a haunting gaze... inspiring wonder more than fear.
Also with as FILTHY as the Orcs looked, they needed something equally FILTHY and nasty looking for them to ride. Generally wolves are graceful and beautiful... there is just something WRONG with the idea of those hideous creatures riding beautiful animals... even if they are preditory animals.
Personally I liked the idea to make the Wargs Hyena-like. Hyenas aren't graceful, or beautiful by most definitions... they are filthy and nasty and are known as bandits and scavengers who eat rotting flesh and decomposing garbage that most other animals (except vultures) won't touch. I thought that immage was a far better one to pair the filthy and gross Orcs to than a Wolf. But that's just what I think...
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Dec 1, 2004 13:25:57 GMT -5
Post by Gloredhel on Dec 1, 2004 13:25:57 GMT -5
I suppose, but I was just reading The Hobbit and this is what Tolkien says warg is what the bad wolves on the edge of the wild are called. So, from that, I think they are wolves, but bigger and fiercer.
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Dec 2, 2004 11:51:30 GMT -5
Post by vikingmaiden on Dec 2, 2004 11:51:30 GMT -5
^ that's what i'd imagined...like wolves, just bigger and nastier...not the regular, beautiful wolves.
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Dec 4, 2004 12:33:27 GMT -5
Post by Gloredhel on Dec 4, 2004 12:33:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I think one of Tolkien's style of writing is making evil be corrupted good. So that would kind of fit I think. I mean, wolves don't usually attack humas, and they are really smart and beautiful. Wargs are just sort of twisted wolves that are bigger. Forgive me if I am confusing...
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Dec 31, 2004 23:56:44 GMT -5
Post by Herenya on Dec 31, 2004 23:56:44 GMT -5
During the warg scene I always say, they look kinda cute - til they open their mouth. There is a warg attack, isn't there, in FOTR book just before Moria? I always thought this scene the idea had just been moved films.
I get annoyed when people pronounce it 'warg' because i always say 'varg'. But perhaps that's just because in 'The Sight' they are called Vargs... and I know in some languages w is pronounced as a v.
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