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Post by Toasterman101 on Apr 18, 2004 19:48:05 GMT -5
As far as I know, no one knows for sure what the two towers are that JRR Tolkien named the second volume after. I believe that most people think it is Barad-dur in Mordor and Isengard - either way they obviously made this asumption in the movie. As Sauron says - "who now has the power to resist both mordor and Isengard? The union of the two towers." or something along those lines. But I would disagree. On the original cover of the two towers there was a picture of two literal towers. One of the towers had a symbal of a crecent moon, while the other had a symbal of the sun. I think they represented Minas Ithil - Tower of the rising moon, and Minas Anor - Tower of the settin sun. Later renamed to Minas Morgal and Minas Tirith as reviled at the council of Elond. They were aposing forces and I think they are the two towers of which Tolkien wrote. Am I alone in my thinking?
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Post by Kitoky on Apr 18, 2004 20:38:54 GMT -5
Actually Tolkien never really specified tower - it could be Minas Tirith and Morgul as you stated and it could be Barad-dur and Orthanc. It could be Towers of Teeth; Narchost and Carchost.
It could be the Tower of Ecthelion - and of course Minas Morgul tower. It could be the Tower of Weathertop or Amon Hen and Amon Lhaw.
There's alot of different possibilities.
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Post by Krissy on Apr 19, 2004 21:54:50 GMT -5
Maybe Tolkien made it intentionally that way. You know, so you have something to think about. Or maybe it means all the sets of the two towers
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Post by Manwe on Apr 20, 2004 9:28:01 GMT -5
we will never know but for me i think that it is orthanc and barad dur.
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Post by Kitoky on Apr 20, 2004 17:58:24 GMT -5
Yea, the way that PJ made it seem, it was actually Barad-dur and Orthanc.
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Post by Jenny on Apr 22, 2004 19:30:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that in the Two Towers Extended Edition PJ says that no one is really sure which two towers Tolkien is talking about, and for the movie he just used his inturpretation of it.
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Post by Legendel on Apr 23, 2004 21:03:22 GMT -5
As Gandalf says: 'There is a union now, between the two towers of Orthanc and Barad-Dur.'
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Post by Diamond on Apr 30, 2004 16:03:53 GMT -5
Tolkien really wasn't quite sure himself. Apparently, the publisher suggested "The Two Towers" to be the title of the second volume. Tolkien debated what "two towers" the title was referring to, even designing different book jackets. He finally decided that the title referred to Orthanc and Cirith Ungol, the two Dark Towers.
<>Diamond<>
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Post by LOTRfreak13 on Jul 29, 2004 13:07:34 GMT -5
the two towers is Orthanc and Barad-Dur it says that in the movies...but i guess it might be different in the books? You can kinda tell its about Orthanc and Barad-Dur cause on the Teaser it has Orthanc and Barad-dur.....and on one teaser it shouws arwen Eowyn i liek thoses.cause it shows that there are 2 poeple that love aragorn and he has to chose but that really doesnt have to do with the topc..lol
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Post by Frodo Baggins on Jul 29, 2004 16:29:32 GMT -5
It is very hard to know, because one book showed Minas Tirith and Barad-dûr, one Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul, one Minas Tirith and Orthanc..... I think that it could be the last one or the Orthanc-Barad-dûr combination. The Orthanc-Tirith because it is about Saruman sending an army towards Rohan and also Faramir and his men from Minas Tirith as they are in the Frodo-part in Ithilien. The Orthanc-Barad-dûr because it is Saruman and Sauron that is attacking from two sides at the same time.
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Post by LOTRfreak13 on Jul 29, 2004 19:50:00 GMT -5
In the movie it said it said the union of the two towers and it shouwed Orthanc and Barad-dur and its the seonc movie the two towers its showing Sauron is attcking osgilath and Saurman to Rohan (helms Deep)
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Post by Aragil on Oct 8, 2004 16:53:58 GMT -5
The most likely is The towers of the teeth or something, or it could be Barad Dur and Orthanc, but ther is also a possibility that it is, as stated above, Minas Morgul and Minas Tirith... Could even have been Orthanc and the Tower in helmsdeep, but thats not very likely! But it could be!
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Post by Belowen on Oct 8, 2004 18:12:12 GMT -5
I think, with all the possibilities of which towers they could be, Tolkien did this to show how widespread the war over middle earth was. I dunno, it makes sense in my head, but I can't quite put what I think into words...
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Post by Lady Orohisiel Rainyaviel on Oct 11, 2004 6:31:33 GMT -5
I think someone has already said this but on my copy of the two towers it says that the Two Towers are Orthanc and the tower of Cirith Ungol but because Cirith Ungol isn't in the film they made i Barad-dur
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Post by Inwë Eärfalas on Oct 15, 2004 5:01:02 GMT -5
As someone already said. Tolkien didn't want to divide the book in three parts and certainly didn't realy agree with the title "the two towers" He thought about which two towers the "two towers" would be, but I forgot which ones he chose. He talks about it in his letters. (That book contains a lot of information, you should read it if you get the chance.)
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