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Post by smeagollum on May 20, 2005 19:14:39 GMT -5
I love Gollum and Smeagol. Besides the Ringwraiths, Gollum is a really really cool villian. He is all sneaky and everything. He approaches from the opposite side, and Smeagol is really cool. I am not really sure why though. Maybe it is just cause he is being taken over by Gollum and without him there wouldn't be the funny scenes where Gollum and Smeagol fight back and forth. ----- Yes, Gollum does haunt Smeagol. Even though I don't think that Smeagol really ever goes "physo". It just kinda seems like that for they are going back and forth and back and forth.
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Eowyn
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Post by Eowyn on May 23, 2005 21:04:40 GMT -5
I actually think it's the other way around.
Smeagol haunts Gollum. Gollum hates how Smeagol opened up to Frodo, and how he's waiting, but not doing anything to take the ring. Smeagol like Frodo and doesn't want to hurt him, gollum only wants the ring.
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Jamson
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Post by Jamson on May 24, 2005 2:55:50 GMT -5
Ok, when you put it that way, he isn't physco but i disagree with it being the other way around, gollum "came" from the ring and smegel "is" the original smegel. personally, i think sam did the right thing because know the smegel that i loved will be free and can go fishing for another "precious"
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Eowyn
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Post by Eowyn on May 28, 2005 20:37:20 GMT -5
I agree with that.
I'm not to sure about the Sam thing, what did sam do the right thing about? Not trusting Smeagol?
It was destined that Smeagol came along, or Frodo would have never gotten rid of the ring, he would of had the same fate as smeagol.
And as for Smeagol dieing, I'm not sure Gollum would have even thought of a life without the ring.
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Jamson
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Post by Jamson on May 29, 2005 3:45:13 GMT -5
He did the right thing by throwing the ring down the fiery mountain so that smeagol could be free!
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Eowyn
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Post by Eowyn on May 31, 2005 17:26:17 GMT -5
he didn't throw the ring down into the fire!!!
Smeagol wanted it, so at the top of the mountain Frodo and Smeagol were fighting for the ring!! That's how Frodo loses one of his fingers!
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Post by elberethsq on Jun 1, 2005 20:29:32 GMT -5
If I was ever to feel pity Gollum would be because he was made corrupt and sneaky by the ring, so if you think about it, it's not entirely his fault, but I guess you could say that to just about all the bad things in the world, so it's controversial.
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Post by elvenrose on Jun 1, 2005 21:47:46 GMT -5
If I was ever to feel pity Gollum would be because he was made corrupt and sneaky by the ring, so if you think about it, it's not entirely his fault, but I guess you could say that to just about all the bad things in the world, so it's controversial. Yes, very controversial. I feel a lot of pity and sadness towards Smeagol; that he had to turn into what he was. But then again, I fear that Smeagol was very weak-minded to start off with, and didnt have a very beautiful personality, even as a hobbit. He killed his cousin, and best friend, Deagol, for that ring. Can you see someone like Aragorn doing that? Gandalf? Legolas? No..I can't. They've seen the ring plently of times, and Aragorn in particular..no way. But just look at Smeagol. He seemed to be very weak, mentally, and I despite that beyond many other things. So while I feel pity, I also feel sickened with disgust at what he did. And I dont know why I feel pity for him, either. Its just..when he is fighting his battle against Gollum..he seems good. But only compared to Gollum, he seems good. But really, he isnt all that good.
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